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 Post subject: Privitization of the PEI Liquor stores
PostPosted: September 30th, 2012, 12:19 pm 
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There is arumour that this Govt plans on privatizing all of the current Govt Liquor stores toa private model.There will be 30 stores across the province.The Govt will sell them the alcohol.Rumour has it the Murphy group have been approached to design the new model and will be actively involved.
The Govt will then not have to worry about employees and their benefits,nor have to deal with the unions involved.
If true it could be a political patronage goldmine like the PNP....has anyone heard this.


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PostPosted: September 30th, 2012, 2:10 pm 
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had this exact convo with a fairly high ranking liqour commison personjust recently. was told point blank, it wont happen " in our lifetime".

as far there planning to go is whats happened lately.

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PostPosted: September 30th, 2012, 2:35 pm 
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Sounds more like someone trying stir up some S..T and get a chance to attack the Murphies.

First off from what I have been told by someone from the Liquor Commission the laws that were set in place for the private liquor stores clearly states that anyone or company whose already has a liquor license for whatever purpose ie: bar,restaurant can not qualify to get a private liquor store so that would pretty much kill the Murphy rumour.

If you notice or cared to check none of the current private run places have any other interest in other places that sell liquor own a bar. I don't think Kenmac Energy owns any bars or restaurants.

This sounds more like a liquor store employee who might actually end up having to get get a real job that doesn't pay $20/hour and they actually have to work.

The idea would be a good one from business sense though. If the Government can make as much as they do now with none of the overhead it would be a business model any business person would love.


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PostPosted: September 30th, 2012, 4:52 pm 
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linetwig wrote:
had this exact convo with a fairly high ranking liqour commison personjust recently. was told point blank, it wont happen " in our lifetime".

as far there planning to go is whats happened lately.

Welcome back.....interesting concept though!


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 Post subject: Re: Privitization of the PEI Liquor stores
PostPosted: October 6th, 2012, 11:27 am 
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If true it could be a political patronage goldmine


And the current provincially run commission and stores are not a political patronage goldmine :?:


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 Post subject: Re: Privitization of the PEI Liquor stores
PostPosted: October 9th, 2012, 9:01 am 
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I am in favour of the privatization of wine and beer retailing on Prince Edward Island. The entire agency is rife with patronage jobs, and costs the province dearly. Yes, the PEILCC does return a profit to the Province, but it could still do so by taking the profit at the wholesale level while letting private retailers offer better service and more innovation.

I don't buy the fear, uncertainty, and doubt arguments that say we're all going to turn alcoholic with new private retailers, or that slightly better access will yield a dramatic increase in drunk driving. Lots of other provinces and states do very well letting the private sector, rightfully so, sell these goods, in a responsible manner.


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PostPosted: October 9th, 2012, 11:34 am 
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adamfreeland wrote:
I am in favour of the privatization of wine and beer retailing on Prince Edward Island. The entire agency is rife with patronage jobs, and costs the province dearly. Yes, the PEILCC does return a profit to the Province, but it could still do so by taking the profit at the wholesale level while letting private retailers offer better service and more innovation.

I don't buy the fear, uncertainty, and doubt arguments that say we're all going to turn alcoholic with new private retailers, or that slightly better access will yield a dramatic increase in drunk driving. Lots of other provinces and states do very well letting the private sector, rightfully so, sell these goods, in a responsible manner.


Thats the issue as always it seems. The view around here is if something changes it can only be for the worst. It has worked elsewhere for a long time without any additional problems. Odds are it will work fine here too.


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PostPosted: October 9th, 2012, 11:39 am 
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There should be some other sectors privatized too. Golf courses, red shores, gambling are some just off the top of my mind.


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PostPosted: October 9th, 2012, 11:48 am 
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OuWestIslander wrote:
There should be some other sectors privatized too. Golf courses, red shores, gambling are some just off the top of my mind.

Red Shores is run by the Atlantic Lottery Corporation, not government.


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PostPosted: October 9th, 2012, 1:09 pm 
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Cathy wrote:
Red Shores is run by the Atlantic Lottery Corporation, not government.

That is in fact the government.

Originally their mandate was to raise money for sports. Now their mandate is to support social programs and infrastructure (roads).

As it is now, except for prizes, games and hardware development and wages all their profit goes to the government.

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PostPosted: October 9th, 2012, 2:25 pm 
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Pogo wrote:
Cathy wrote:
Red Shores is run by the Atlantic Lottery Corporation, not government.

That is in fact the government.

Originally their mandate was to raise money for sports. Now their mandate is to support social programs and infrastructure (roads).

As it is now, except for prizes, games and hardware development and wages all their profit goes to the government.


That profit is after expenses. :lol:

I wonder what ever was the outcome of when a certain reported asked questions about ALC expenses?
It seemed it was only a blip on the news and then the corporate expenses were taken down of their web site.


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PostPosted: October 9th, 2012, 3:44 pm 
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Pogo wrote:
Cathy wrote:
Red Shores is run by the Atlantic Lottery Corporation, not government.

That is in fact the government.

But not any one government.


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