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 Post subject: Ripping off kids...a fine example to set.
PostPosted: August 10th, 2012, 10:04 am 
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As adults, I believe it is our responsibility to set ethical examples for the kids we come in contact with... unfortunately, not all adults seem to get it.

As part of fundraising efforts to send members of the Souris High Powerlifting Team to the world championships, the team hires itself out in the community to do a variety of jobs. Three weeks ago, 12 of these kids worked a wedding reception serving dinner to 150 guests, changing the hall over for the dance, and washing a mountain of dishes.

The adult who contracted the kids verbally expressed her appreciation for the great job these kids did and commented on how hard they worked and has, for the last 3 weeks, refused to pay them for their efforts...lost the address to send the cheque twice and now does not return calls.

As with every job they do, payment was to be by donation based on the client's assessment of the job performance...here there were 12 kids X 4 hours X 10.00 hour = 480.00 if an hourly rate was the deal...the powerlifting program instills the belief that hard work pays off to all these kids.

Guess that was missing in this lady's upbringing...pitiful example to set for these or any kids.


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PostPosted: August 10th, 2012, 10:06 am 
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If not resolved this person should be shamed publicly.


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PostPosted: August 10th, 2012, 10:39 am 
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Wow, that's pretty low. Hopefully it is just a miss understanding of some kind and it works out. If it doesn't and all hope has been lost on getting the money, then I would agree with raiders on the public shaming.

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PostPosted: August 10th, 2012, 11:10 am 
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What a shame. I sure hope that person isn't abusing the kindness and hard work of the kids. I hope it gets fixed up soon where everyone is happy. Ignoring the phone calls etc, kind of makes me think they never had any intention to pay, but hopefully I'm wrong and they at least give SOMETHING for the work the kids did. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Ripping off kids...a fine example to set.
PostPosted: August 10th, 2012, 11:57 am 
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Perhaps contacting the newly married couple and letting them know what has happened would help. they may be completely unaware of this situation and the "adult" responsible is evading doing the right thing. Souris and area is small, I am sure the couple wouldn't want this to be their start.


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Call the Guardian and CBC.

Tell them the story.

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PostPosted: August 10th, 2012, 7:13 pm 
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Name them and shame them !!!!!. This is one of the worst examples of lowlife behaviour that I've ever heard of.


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PostPosted: August 10th, 2012, 8:37 pm 
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I'm with the rest on this...name 'em and shame 'em. What kind of cheap so and so does this? Also, Larry, I would let the community know who pulled this crap.
I would also appeal on social media for the community,and province,to help out. Best of luck to the Souris atheletes!


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PostPosted: August 10th, 2012, 11:12 pm 
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I hope this was just a misunderstanding of some sort! If not, it certainly is a poor example to set for these kids, to say the least. I agree with the poster who said to pass this story on to the Guardian and the CBC. There is no way this person who hired the kids should be able to get away without paying them.


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 Post subject: Re: Ripping off kids...a fine example to set.
PostPosted: August 11th, 2012, 7:47 am 
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Larry LeBlanc wrote:
As adults, I believe it is our responsibility to set ethical examples for the kids we come in contact with... unfortunately, not all adults seem to get it.

As part of fundraising efforts to send members of the Souris High Powerlifting Team to the world championships, the team hires itself out in the community to do a variety of jobs. Three weeks ago, 12 of these kids worked a wedding reception serving dinner to 150 guests, changing the hall over for the dance, and washing a mountain of dishes.

The adult who contracted the kids verbally expressed her appreciation for the great job these kids did and commented on how hard they worked and has, for the last 3 weeks, refused to pay them for their efforts...lost the address to send the cheque twice and now does not return calls.

As with every job they do, payment was to be by donation based on the client's assessment of the job performance...here there were 12 kids X 4 hours X 10.00 hour = 480.00 if an hourly rate was the deal...the powerlifting program instills the belief that hard work pays off to all these kids.

Guess that was missing in this lady's upbringing...pitiful example to set for these or any kids.

I'm not doubting the facts of the story, but there must be some logical reason why the expected payment has not been made?


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 Post subject: Re: Ripping off kids...a fine example to set.
PostPosted: August 11th, 2012, 1:52 pm 
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Let's see....tables prepared with water & juice for 150 then, under the supervision of the hired (and paid... separate of our agreement) caterer, serving 150 dinners, clearing the tables, then serving 150 desserts, then clearing of dishes, then washing, drying, and putting away said dishes with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.

Nothing spilled on anyone, special orders were done correctly, and plenty of compliments on the service.

Since then it has been...I lost your PO box # followed by I couldn't find your address that I wrote down and 3 unreturned phone calls.

What would logic dictate the reason be for stiffing the kids on payment ?


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 Post subject: Re: Ripping off kids...a fine example to set.
PostPosted: August 11th, 2012, 2:31 pm 
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Larry LeBlanc wrote:
Let's see....tables prepared with water & juice for 150 then, under the supervision of the hired (and paid... separate of our agreement) caterer, serving 150 dinners, clearing the tables, then serving 150 desserts, then clearing of dishes, then washing, drying, and putting away said dishes with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.

Nothing spilled on anyone, special orders were done correctly, and plenty of compliments on the service.

Since then it has been...I lost your PO box # followed by I couldn't find your address that I wrote down and 3 unreturned phone calls.

What would logic dictate the reason be for stiffing the kids on payment ?

Perhaps he or she just assumed that you were not in a big hurry to collect the money. What kind of time frames are we talking about here?


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FoxRun wrote:
Perhaps he or she just assumed that you were not in a big hurry to collect the money. What kind of time frames are we talking about here?



Larry LeBlanc wrote:
with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.


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Raiders wrote:
FoxRun wrote:
Perhaps he or she just assumed that you were not in a big hurry to collect the money. What kind of time frames are we talking about here?



Larry LeBlanc wrote:
with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.




seriously!???! who wouldn't be in a big hurry to get paid? i bet if tables were turned and the non payer in question had to wait to get paid from their job etc they would be freaking out at this point!!! :( sorry this is happening \and hopin to hear it turns around with a big fat payment from said 'non payer' and a huge apology for takin so long (and for the clear avoidance) :(


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PostPosted: August 11th, 2012, 4:21 pm 
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Raiders wrote:
FoxRun wrote:
Perhaps he or she just assumed that you were not in a big hurry to collect the money. What kind of time frames are we talking about here?



Larry LeBlanc wrote:
with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.


In my past dealings I found that many people here are very relaxed when it comes time to pay their bill. Waiting a few months to send payment seems to be quite common. There is well known business here that consistently pays us one year late every year, for about ten years. Others I spoke with that deal with that business have had the same experience. Lost address, unsigned cheques, wrong amount on the cheque and any other miscommunication one can imagine are part of doing the business on the Island.


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PostPosted: August 11th, 2012, 4:34 pm 
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sasha wrote:
Raiders wrote:
FoxRun wrote:
Perhaps he or she just assumed that you were not in a big hurry to collect the money. What kind of time frames are we talking about here?



Larry LeBlanc wrote:
with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.


In my past dealings I found that many people here are very relaxed when it comes time to pay their bill. Waiting a few months to send payment seems to be quite common. There is well known business here that consistently pays us one year late every year, for about ten years. Others I spoke with that deal with that business have had the same experience. Lost address, unsigned cheques, wrong amount on the cheque and any other miscommunication one can imagine are part of doing the business on the Island.



Well they wouldn't be doing business with me. Hell with that....Pay me what you owe me! Period or I will be knocking at your door the second day and people know that.

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PostPosted: August 11th, 2012, 4:36 pm 
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stick2thefacts wrote:
Raiders wrote:
FoxRun wrote:
Perhaps he or she just assumed that you were not in a big hurry to collect the money. What kind of time frames are we talking about here?



Larry LeBlanc wrote:
with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.




seriously!???! who wouldn't be in a big hurry to get paid? i bet if tables were turned and the non payer in question had to wait to get paid from their job etc they would be freaking out at this point!!! :( sorry this is happening \and hopin to hear it turns around with a big fat payment from said 'non payer' and a huge apology for takin so long (and for the clear avoidance) :(


Yes seriously and for all you know, this could be more innocent then you think.


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FoxRun wrote:
stick2thefacts wrote:
Raiders wrote:
FoxRun wrote:
Perhaps he or she just assumed that you were not in a big hurry to collect the money. What kind of time frames are we talking about here?



Larry LeBlanc wrote:
with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.




seriously!???! who wouldn't be in a big hurry to get paid? i bet if tables were turned and the non payer in question had to wait to get paid from their job etc they would be freaking out at this point!!! :( sorry this is happening \and hopin to hear it turns around with a big fat payment from said 'non payer' and a huge apology for takin so long (and for the clear avoidance) :(


Yes seriously and for all you know, this could be more innocent then you think.


'this could be NOT as innocent as you think' ;) :lol:


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Molly wrote:
sasha wrote:
Raiders wrote:
FoxRun wrote:
Perhaps he or she just assumed that you were not in a big hurry to collect the money. What kind of time frames are we talking about here?



Larry LeBlanc wrote:
with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.


In my past dealings I found that many people here are very relaxed when it comes time to pay their bill. Waiting a few months to send payment seems to be quite common. There is well known business here that consistently pays us one year late every year, for about ten years. Others I spoke with that deal with that business have had the same experience. Lost address, unsigned cheques, wrong amount on the cheque and any other miscommunication one can imagine are part of doing the business on the Island.



Well they wouldn't be doing business with me. Hell with that....Pay me what you owe me! Period or I will be knocking at your door the second day and people know that.


Heh, you sound like my wife. She and I sometimes get in arguments about clients that tend to be "payment challenged". She sees being late with payment as disrespect more than anything else. I tend to be more forgiving, but then I am not the one paying the bills or dealing with money in our home.


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sasha wrote:
Molly wrote:
sasha wrote:
Raiders wrote:
FoxRun wrote:
Perhaps he or she just assumed that you were not in a big hurry to collect the money. What kind of time frames are we talking about here?



Larry LeBlanc wrote:
with an agreement payment would be made the following Monday.


In my past dealings I found that many people here are very relaxed when it comes time to pay their bill. Waiting a few months to send payment seems to be quite common. There is well known business here that consistently pays us one year late every year, for about ten years. Others I spoke with that deal with that business have had the same experience. Lost address, unsigned cheques, wrong amount on the cheque and any other miscommunication one can imagine are part of doing the business on the Island.



Well they wouldn't be doing business with me. Hell with that....Pay me what you owe me! Period or I will be knocking at your door the second day and people know that.


Heh, you sound like my wife. She and I sometimes get in arguments about clients that tend to be "payment challenged". She sees being late with payment as disrespect more than anything else. I tend to be more forgiving, but then I am not the one paying the bills or dealing with money in our home.


Your wife is a very smart woman! :D

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