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 Post subject: Binns applies to Supreme court over patronage case.
PostPosted: April 20th, 2006, 7:05 am 
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Am I the only one that thinks the Conservatiove have lost their minds in persuing this matter further?

In a nutshell, Binns ran on a ticket that included contempt for the previous government who gave jobs on a patronage basis. When they won, the immdeiately cleaned house of people who had liberal ties. When they lost the subsequent court case, they passed a law limiting damages to a small part of what the workers were legally entitled to.

These people spent a small fortune in trying to have theior rights protected by the court. Binns of course has a hungry stable of lawyer friends getting frigging rich (with the money coming out of our pocket) while Binns tries to make it possible to say screw the coursts, we'll give them what we want and screw wrongful dismissal laws.

In the end, we'll likely find we have spent more in legal fees then we'd have had to pay in damages according to the original court case.

Give it up Binns. You lost the case...pay up. Quit this act of trowing our money around. Binns isn't worried about saving our money...he is only interested in preserving the ability of the Provincial Government to give jobs to cronies and friends of the party.

Enough is enough.

Even worse, the Binns scum has attempted to mislead Islanders. Both he and Dover have stated no decision has been made on whether to appeal, yet the very day they claimed this, a 250 page document was found. This document was the submission of the application for leave to appeal...a document which was filed the next day.

His claim that they were only considering the matter is bulls**t. The Dover comes forward and made statements that the department had been asked to prepare the document in case the decision was made to appeal, but that they had no idea the document was ready.

What kind of idiots do they think Islanders are? They expect us to believe that the Attorney General had no idea what was happening on such a major file. If she didn't, she should resign immediately.

This whole pile of crap is about as believeable as the Premnier claiming he had no idea an election was coming 6 weeks after he surreptitiously slipped millions of dollars to Polar. He was "Offended" at accusations he would try to hide such an expenditure from the people who were going to the polls.

The emperor has no clothes seems somewhat approopriate...now we know he and Dover lack brains and morals, as well.

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HEAR HEAR!!!! Brilliant piece Ed, you should write this to both of the Island newspapers.

Truer words were never spoken!

Of course, a part of me feels that it is a bit foolish that these people are suing for being fired because of political ties, when they were only hired on because of political ties in the first place!

When all is said and done though, this patronage routine needs to be permanently scrapped. All Islanders should have equal opportunities at government jobs regardless of their (and their family's) political affiliation.

What Binns has been doing is total bulls**t, but that goes for all previous governments as well.

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stevebeairsto wrote:
HEAR HEAR!!!! Brilliant piece Ed, you should write this to both of the Island newspapers.

Truer words were never spoken!

Of course, a part of me feels that it is a bit foolish that these people are suing for being fired because of political ties, when they were only hired on because of political ties in the first place!

When all is said and done though, this patronage routine needs to be permanently scrapped. All Islanders should have equal opportunities at government jobs regardless of their (and their family's) political affiliation.

What Binns has been doing is total bulls**t, but that goes for all previous governments as well.


Nice to see we can reach a concensus on some things. I concede previous governments have practiced patronage but it is only the Garbage Binn goververnment that has sunk millions of our dollars in wiping up the mess.

Our bill of rights doesnt support such activities and for Binns to think he can use the provincial legislature to bypass canadfian law and the bill of rights revelas how far this farmer has been promoted beyond his abilities.Hey...can you imagine the notwithstanding clause used for this.

Its time for us to let this government know that their multimillion make work program for underutilized lawyers, has gone too far.

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ed"the sock" wrote:
Nice to see we can reach a concensus on some things. I concede previous governments have practiced patronage but it is only the Garbage Binn goververnment that has sunk millions of our dollars in wiping up the mess.


How much money was spent fighting Mickey Burge?


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ed"the sock" wrote:
Nice to see we can reach a concensus on some things. I concede previous governments have practiced patronage but it is only the Garbage Binn goververnment that has sunk millions of our dollars in wiping up the mess.


How much money was spent fighting Mickey Burge?


The cost of the legal fees for the Burge case was just under $500,000. Don't feel too sorry for the lad. As soon as they Conservatives gained power, they awarded Burge a settlement of The Liberals refused to settle his political discrimination complaint. When the Conservatives again came to power in 1996 one of their first acts was to resolve Burge's human rights complaint. He received a payment of $197,000.

After all, its only patronage if its done by a Liberal government.

A year later, the conservatives made changes to the Human Rights act that limited remuneration to about 4% of the persons seasonal income...about the same amount as vacation pay..

this legislation was oveturned by the court as:

CONSTITUTIONAL LAW - Charter s.2(d) - Political belief- Validity of amendments
to provincial Human Rights legislation removing remedies available to certain group
of political belief discrimination complainants.

The Court of Appeal held amendments to the Human Rights Act
restricting remedies for a certain group of political belief discrimination complainants
violated s. 2(d) of the Charter and were not saved by s.1.

The PEI supreme court stated in this decision that the cap contravened section 2 b)

I never claimed that the Liberals didn't practice Patronage. I am ap[paled that the Binns Gov has not accepted the decisions of 2 courts and is making another attempt to delay things by going to the Supreme Court. He has no chance of overturning the PEI supreme court on this and its only sinking good money after bad.

My question might be, if it is appropriate to give an award to Burge of $197,000.00, then why do Liberals fired get a pittance (one of the major offers was a settlement of $700).

Is Binns saying that Liberals or NDP do not deserve Jobs and if fired for beliefs, do not deserve protection under the charter.

If he really believes this, let him abandon this foolishness of a Supreme Court of Canada Challange and invoke the Notwithstanding Clause...

Of course he won't cause he knows that he and his party will stand NO chance of re-election.

The 16 page court decision is at:
http://www.gov.pe.ca/courts/supreme/reasons/0965.pdf

That answer your question?

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