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 Post subject: what is the basic difference between the Red and the Blue?
PostPosted: October 1st, 2015, 2:25 pm 
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I have asked politicians and I have asked friends and some not so friendly, friends -- What is the basic or fundamental difference between a Liberal Government and/or the Conservative Government?
Why should I vote one way or the other?
I have been voting for years and it always seemed to be for the same party but I never really understood why, other then, the first time I voted, I didn't like the guy who was running against the guy I knew. I kind of fell into the rut of always marking for that party.
Finally, I want or would like to know what the Conservative or Liberal difference really is.
Can you answer this for me?
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Why does you vote have to be conservative or liberal?


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they were the only game in town when I started voting. I have a grasp on the NDP and the Green but having never witnessed them leading the Canadian Government, I don't know how they will differ from the two whom have governed .

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At the very basic Liberals are generally more free (liberal) with spending money where the Conservatives are a bit more, well conservative.

Conservatives tend to be a bit more heavy handed/old school on things like laws/social issues.


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You will never know how a government is going to govern until they govern.
All you can go by is policy.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... -platforms

http://www.greenparty.ca/en/platform

http://www.ndp.ca/plan

https://www.liberal.ca/realchange/


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Nomie wrote:
At the very basic Liberals are generally more free (liberal) with spending money where the Conservatives are a bit more, well conservative.

Conservatives tend to be a bit more heavy handed/old school on things like laws/social issues.



It's a myth that liberals are the tax and spend party.
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/canada-deficit/


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Nomie wrote:
At the very basic Liberals are generally more free (liberal) with spending money where the Conservatives are a bit more, well conservative.

Conservatives tend to be a bit more heavy handed/old school on things like laws/social issues.


Fiscally, I don't think that there is a real party difference, more who happens to be in the Finance chair and how close to an election they are. Paul Martin had much more "conservative" policies than some would have equated to a Liberal.

I think the differences tend to be more on the social side.

Ultimately though, in Canada, all parties tend to hover around the political center, veering off to the right or left occasionally but pretty much equally.


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Since the early 90's both parties have accepted the notion that balancing budgets and lowering or keeping the debt burden down is desirable, although circumstances (like a recession) may dictate a departure from that. Under Harper I think it's more of a priority unto itself, though ironically he's been in a position most of his term where circumstances have led us the other direction.

That's a different issue from the size and purpose of government, where again under Harper a much wider difference has appeared than was the case in the past. The conservatives are pretty clearly a party that believes in doing less in areas it is responsible for and helping the provinces less. The rationale I think is a mix of looking for lower taxes, being a bit more libertarian and having a less collaborative view of federalism.

One other difference I see at the moment is a difference in approach to taxes and transfers, with the Liberals being generally more progressive (targeting the rich a bit and focusing cuts and benefits on lower income earners) rather than spreading benefits more widely and creating "boutique" tax credits that don't seem to do much more than reward potential supporters (although the Liberals have proposed a few of those too). Which is a bit ironic because targeting things to where they're needed would seem to fit better with the Conservative view on things - probably a victory of political expediency over principles.


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sentance wrote:
Since the early 90's both parties have accepted the notion that balancing budgets and lowering or keeping the debt burden down is desirable, although circumstances (like a recession) may dictate a departure from that. Under Harper I think it's more of a priority unto itself, though ironically he's been in a position most of his term where circumstances have led us the other direction.

That's a different issue from the size and purpose of government, where again under Harper a much wider difference has appeared than was the case in the past. The conservatives are pretty clearly a party that believes in doing less in areas it is responsible for and helping the provinces less. The rationale I think is a mix of looking for lower taxes, being a bit more libertarian and having a less collaborative view of federalism.

One other difference I see at the moment is a difference in approach to taxes and transfers, with the Liberals being generally more progressive (targeting the rich a bit and focusing cuts and benefits on lower income earners) rather than spreading benefits more widely and creating "boutique" tax credits that don't seem to do much more than reward potential supporters (although the Liberals have proposed a few of those too). Which is a bit ironic because targeting things to where they're needed would seem to fit better with the Conservative view on things - probably a victory of political expediency over principles.

That's a pretty good summary of our political arena and as much as some of us despise Mr Harper and his approach to running the country, we're the ones who put him there and gave him the mandate.


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A broken system is what game him the mandate.
Less than 40% of the vote should never equal a majority government in any just system.


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Blake McKinley wrote:
A broken system is what game him the mandate.
Less than 40% of the vote should never equal a majority government in any just system.


It's been that way for a long long time and in the current system it's still the majority and we still voted it in....


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You may have but I didn't.

I would prefer a system where my vote actually counts.


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Blake McKinley wrote:
You may have but I didn't.

I would prefer a system where my vote actually counts.


I didn't vote him in either and I still think my vote actually counted. The problem with our region is that we usually vote for the wrong party.


http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/election/nanos-polls


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