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Author:  grumpysmurf [ April 24th, 2015, 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  vote time

I have no idea who to vote for lots of good candidates but nothing they offer benefits me in anyway. Hate for my vote not to count very confusing.

Author:  Blake McKinley [ April 24th, 2015, 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vote time

Vote for the person you think will be best for PEI.
If they are the best person for the Island then by transitive property they are the best candidate for you.

Author:  Gardiner [ April 25th, 2015, 8:40 am ]
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grumpysmurf wrote:
I have no idea who to vote for lots of good candidates but nothing they offer benefits me in anyway. Hate for my vote not to count very confusing.

I believe that all ballots should provide voters with a "none of the above" choice.

Author:  Rascal [ April 25th, 2015, 9:49 am ]
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Gardiner wrote:
grumpysmurf wrote:
I have no idea who to vote for lots of good candidates but nothing they offer benefits me in anyway. Hate for my vote not to count very confusing.

I believe that all ballots should provide voters with a "none of the above" choice.

Basically they do. Just vote for them all or take the ballot and mark none of them.

Author:  Gardiner [ April 25th, 2015, 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vote time

Rascal wrote:
Gardiner wrote:
grumpysmurf wrote:
I have no idea who to vote for lots of good candidates but nothing they offer benefits me in anyway. Hate for my vote not to count very confusing.

I believe that all ballots should provide voters with a "none of the above" choice.

Basically they do. Just vote for them all or take the ballot and mark none of them.

But wouldn't that just be marked as a "spoiled ballot"? What I'm talking about is a vote as a "none of the above" status and counted at the end of the tabulation.

Voting results
PC CLEMENTS, Linda - 100
Liberal DUMVILLE, Bush - 90
NDP MEGGS, Peter - 2
Green SANDERSON, Charles - 1
None of the above - 25

Author:  Blake McKinley [ April 25th, 2015, 3:01 pm ]
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What purpose would that serve?

Author:  Gardiner [ April 25th, 2015, 5:28 pm ]
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Blake McKinley wrote:
What purpose would that serve?


Your vote wouldn't be wasted and you send a message that none of the candidates are worth voting for.

Author:  Blake McKinley [ April 25th, 2015, 7:26 pm ]
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You vote would be wasted actually.
And do you think that the people who are currently running would choose not to if there was a "none of the above" option?

Author:  Gardiner [ April 25th, 2015, 8:00 pm ]
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Blake McKinley wrote:
You vote would be wasted actually.
And do you think that the people who are currently running would choose not to if there was a "none of the above" option?

Not really....your decision to choose "none of the above" is registered and counted. And why would someone not run because there is a "none of the above" option on the ballot?

Author:  screenname [ April 25th, 2015, 8:11 pm ]
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This is really to absurd to comment on, but I will only add this, If you feel that no one is worth voting for, perhaps it might be time to put your own name forth.

Author:  Rascal [ April 25th, 2015, 8:29 pm ]
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Gardiner wrote:
Blake McKinley wrote:
You vote would be wasted actually.
And do you think that the people who are currently running would choose not to if there was a "none of the above" option?

Not really....your decision to choose "none of the above" is registered and counted. And why would someone not run because there is a "none of the above" option on the ballot?

To what purpose is your vote registered and counted?
If more people tick the 'None of the above' box, who wins the seat?
Do we have to have another election in that riding to decide a winner?
Does the person who receives the most votes win or does your riding do without representation?

Author:  Blake McKinley [ April 25th, 2015, 8:52 pm ]
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Gardiner wrote:
Blake McKinley wrote:
You vote would be wasted actually.
And do you think that the people who are currently running would choose not to if there was a "none of the above" option?

Not really....your decision to choose "none of the above" is registered and counted. And why would someone not run because there is a "none of the above" option on the ballot?


I would think that is someone is unhappy with government then they would put forward ideas that would improve things.
I still don't see how your idea improves anything.
A spoiled ballot is registered and counted. All it does is waste the time of the people counting.
The same for any ballot that had none of the above on it. It's a spoiled ballot with no benefit to the process.

No one would make the decision to not run. That is my point. Your none of the above option has absolutely no purpose other than to waste time.

Author:  Gardiner [ April 26th, 2015, 8:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vote time

I have the right to vote and I should also have that same right to indicate that none of the candidates running in my district have done enough to deserve my vote.

For example, I was planning on voting PC and then they go and remove the person( I vote person and not party) I had planned on voting for and I wish to send a message that I'm not voting for any of the above.


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Voting results
PC CLEMENTS, Linda - 100
Liberal DUMVILLE, Bush - 90
NDP MEGGS, Peter - 2
Green SANDERSON, Charles - 1
None of the above - 25

Author:  Eddie [ April 26th, 2015, 9:08 am ]
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grumpysmurf wrote:
I have no idea who to vote for lots of good candidates but nothing they offer benefits me in anyway. Hate for my vote not to count very confusing.

You have three real choices for this event.

You can 1- vote to maintain the 'status quo', with either of two largely identical 'traditional party' candidates, 2- vote for one of the 'alternative' party candidates in a gesture of romantic futility, or 3- preserve your dignity by staying home.

The only constructive choice - next time - is to offer for election and hope that by then some changes have been made in the 'party discipline' model so that you can 'make a difference'.

You do get a bit of choice in the upcoming federal election - more warfare with the Tories, and more welfare with the other two.

Author:  betamaxman [ April 26th, 2015, 11:08 am ]
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I agree with Gardner 100%
The option he speaks of would be an excellent way to gauge how many people there are who are unhappy with the choices offered. Kind of like the undecided count in a poll.
If for no other reason this alone makes it a great idea.
It would also be interesting to see how many people who usually vote like obedient drones for the same people every election even though they might not be totally happy with it, might actually show their discontent if given an option to do so by checking 'none of the above'.

Author:  Gardiner [ April 26th, 2015, 11:27 am ]
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grumpysmurf wrote:
I have no idea who to vote for lots of good candidates but nothing they offer benefits me in anyway. Hate for my vote not to count very confusing.

Another good reason for "none of the above".

Author:  Blake McKinley [ April 26th, 2015, 1:59 pm ]
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I'll ask again. How would any of this improve the system?

Author:  Gardiner [ April 26th, 2015, 2:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vote time

Blake McKinley wrote:
I'll ask again. How would any of this improve the system?


Actually the topic of the thread is how does one vote when none of the options can offer anything. This option could improve the level of effort some of these candidates actually put into their campaign. Again, I'll use my riding as an example. I want to vote for a change and I'm not so sure the new PC canidate deserves my vote as I know nothing about her and I refuse to vote red and IMO to vote any other color would be a wasted vote.


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I have no idea who to vote for lots of good candidates but nothing they offer benefits me in anyway. Hate for my vote not to count very confusing.

Author:  Rascal [ April 26th, 2015, 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vote time

Of those who favor the 'None of the above' option could you please answer the questions I asked earlier. See sample results below.

If more people tick the 'None of the above' box, who wins the seat?
Do we have to have another election in that riding to decide a winner?
Does the person who receives the most votes win?
Does the riding do without representation?

Voting results
PC CLEMENTS, Linda - 25
Liberal DUMVILLE, Bush - 25
NDP MEGGS, Peter - 4
Green SANDERSON, Charles - 1
None of the above - 45

Author:  Gardiner [ April 26th, 2015, 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vote time

Rascal wrote:
Of those who favor the 'None of the above' option could you please answer the questions I asked earlier. See sample results below.

If more people tick the 'None of the above' box, who wins the seat?
Do we have to have another election in that riding to decide a winner?
Does the person who receives the most votes win?
Does the riding do without representation?

Voting results
PC CLEMENTS, Linda - 25
Liberal DUMVILLE, Bush - 25
NDP MEGGS, Peter - 4
Green SANDERSON, Charles - 1
None of the above - 45



The person who receives the most votes win.

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