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 Post subject: Distracted driving legislation
PostPosted: December 7th, 2014, 9:37 am 
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Admin note: the portion of the thread in PEI Talk that turned to a political discussion was moved to the political section.




adamfreeland wrote:
FYI, the bill did not pass before the session ended.

I wonder how many other important bills(I believe there were 15) didn't get passed cause these elected people didn't want to take the time to do so?


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 Post subject: Re: Distracted driving penalties increasing
PostPosted: December 7th, 2014, 9:54 am 
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Gardiner wrote:
adamfreeland wrote:
FYI, the bill did not pass before the session ended.

I wonder how many other important bills(I believe there were 15) didn't get passed cause these elected people didn't want to take the time to do so?



17 bills tabled by the government and there were 4 tabled by opposition.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-ed ... -1.2855743


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 Post subject: Re: Distracted driving penalties increasing
PostPosted: December 7th, 2014, 10:10 am 
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Blake McKinley wrote:
Gardiner wrote:
adamfreeland wrote:
FYI, the bill did not pass before the session ended.

I wonder how many other important bills(I believe there were 15) didn't get passed cause these elected people didn't want to take the time to do so?



17 bills tabled by the government and there were 4 tabled by opposition.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-ed ... -1.2855743

Were they in such a hurry to finish this session(which was the second shortest ever) that they couldn't finish the work they're getting paid to do?


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 Post subject: Re: Distracted driving penalties increasing
PostPosted: December 7th, 2014, 12:38 pm 
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Gardiner wrote:
Blake McKinley wrote:
Gardiner wrote:
adamfreeland wrote:
FYI, the bill did not pass before the session ended.

I wonder how many other important bills(I believe there were 15) didn't get passed cause these elected people didn't want to take the time to do so?



17 bills tabled by the government and there were 4 tabled by opposition.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-ed ... -1.2855743

Were they in such a hurry to finish this session(which was the second shortest ever) that they couldn't finish the work they're getting paid to do?


Not uncommon as they don't want to appear to be setting the direction for the new leader. That being said, this would have been a great piece of legislation to come in. Hopefully the new government will simply reintroduce this piece.

I would also like to see a lot more use of tactics like spotters and such to increase enforcement. It is even hard to stop at a light without seeing a couple of drivers either talking on the phone, or staring at the phone in their lap as they respond to texts. Would also be good to see the cities and the province invest in cameras at intersections to mail out tickets to those running lights. They could then do spot checks of video to catch drivers texting and talking.


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 Post subject: Re: Distracted driving penalties increasing
PostPosted: December 7th, 2014, 2:44 pm 
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New Guy wrote:
Gardiner wrote:
Blake McKinley wrote:
Gardiner wrote:
adamfreeland wrote:
FYI, the bill did not pass before the session ended.

I wonder how many other important bills(I believe there were 15) didn't get passed cause these elected people didn't want to take the time to do so?



17 bills tabled by the government and there were 4 tabled by opposition.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-ed ... -1.2855743

Were they in such a hurry to finish this session(which was the second shortest ever) that they couldn't finish the work they're getting paid to do?


Not uncommon as they don't want to appear to be setting the direction for the new leader. That being said, this would have been a great piece of legislation to come in. Hopefully the new government will simply reintroduce this piece.

I would also like to see a lot more use of tactics like spotters and such to increase enforcement. It is even hard to stop at a light without seeing a couple of drivers either talking on the phone, or staring at the phone in their lap as they respond to texts. Would also be good to see the cities and the province invest in cameras at intersections to mail out tickets to those running lights. They could then do spot checks of video to catch drivers texting and talking.

I don't agree and I can't see the direction changing that much. Too me, it just looks like they were too lazy to finish something that they started and if any of those bills were not important to pass then why introduce them in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: Distracted driving penalties increasing
PostPosted: December 7th, 2014, 3:12 pm 
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New Guy wrote:

Not uncommon as they don't want to appear to be setting the direction for the new leader. That being said, this would have been a great piece of legislation to come in. Hopefully the new government will simply reintroduce this piece.


That is the liberal standard talking point but the fact of the matter is, this is the government that was elected. This is the government that has work to do.
These bills were introduced under this government.

It is a cop out for the liberals to kick the can down the road.
They lied about fixed elections. Now they are basically saying PEI does not need government for 5-6 months because the party is changing leaders.

This is the politics of cowards and PEI deserves far better.


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 Post subject: Re: Distracted driving penalties increasing
PostPosted: December 7th, 2014, 6:06 pm 
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Blake McKinley wrote:
New Guy wrote:

Not uncommon as they don't want to appear to be setting the direction for the new leader. That being said, this would have been a great piece of legislation to come in. Hopefully the new government will simply reintroduce this piece.


That is the liberal standard talking point but the fact of the matter is, this is the government that was elected. This is the government that has work to do.
These bills were introduced under this government.

It is a cop out for the liberals to kick the can down the road.
They lied about fixed elections. Now they are basically saying PEI does not need government for 5-6 months because the party is changing leaders.

This is the politics of cowards and PEI deserves far better.


No different than any other government. Bills die in every province and even federally just about every time an election comes up. This has happened even when leaders were not changing. Some get reintroduced, particularly when the same party is reelected. Some do not. It is not a matter of saying the province does not need government for the next 5-6 months, it is a matter of saying they are not going to set any new priorities that would hand cuff the new leader or prevent Him/Her from setting their own direction. There is still no shortage of policy & legislation out there to follow, and they still have their previously set directions to follow.


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 Post subject: Re: Distracted driving legislation
PostPosted: December 7th, 2014, 6:17 pm 
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These were not new priorities. These were tabled bills that our elected officials deemed worthy of tabling.

This in not an issue of running out of time. There is no excuse for shutting down government with this much legislation outstanding.


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 Post subject: Re: Distracted driving legislation
PostPosted: December 7th, 2014, 6:47 pm 
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Blake McKinley wrote:
These were not new priorities. These were tabled bills that our elected officials deemed worthy of tabling.

This in not an issue of running out of time. There is no excuse for shutting down government with this much legislation outstanding.


If they are not already passed laws, then they are new direction or policy being taken by government. When Ontario closed their legislature over 100 bills died. When Prentice closed the Alberta house, their pension reform bill died. When the feds have called an election the past couple of times, bills on Animal Cruelty and a bill on On Reserve homes and marital rights died. Here are some other bills that dies when the feds prorogued the house.

•Bill C-7, An Act respecting the selection of senators and amending the Constitution Act, 1867 in respect of Senate term limits (Senate Reform Act)
•Bill C-30, An Act to enact the Investigating and Preventing Criminal Electronic Communications Act and to amend the Criminal Code and other Acts (Protecting Children from Internet Predators Act)
•Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the National Defence Act (mental disorder) (Not Criminally Responsible Reform Act)
•Bill C-21, Bill An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act (accountability with respect to political loans)
•Bill C-377 An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (requirements for labour organizations)

http://www.slaw.ca/2013/08/22/when-prime-minister-harper-prorogues-parliament-the-transgendered-bill-will-die-among-others/

I believe that first one was identified as a priority by the government.

As you can see, it is not the domain of any one party, and nowhere near new. Just google "Bills that died when legislature prorogued" You will see it happens everywhere.


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