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 Post subject: Jews ordered to be registered in Eastern Ukraine.
PostPosted: April 17th, 2014, 12:47 pm 
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I can't believe we're seeing this kind of idiocy AGAIN!! Have these morons learned absolutely nothing? what's next, the deportation of all Jews from the Ukraine? Concentration camps?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/1
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 Post subject: Re: Jews ordered to be registered in Eastern Ukraine.
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Thisit?

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 Post subject: Re: Jews ordered to be registered in Eastern Ukraine.
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PolitiFact: Kerry statement that Ukrainian officials requiring Jews to register is false
Almost immediately, there were signs that the fliers weren't coming from any kind of authority.

The separatist whose signature allegedly appears on the flier — Donetsk People's Republic Chairman Denis Pushilin, leader of the pro-Russian militants — denied any connection to it.

Reporters on the ground quickly found that no one was actually being registered.

PolitiFact exchanged emails with Ari Shapiro, an NPR international correspondent reporting from Donetsk, who said there is a real flier, but it went ignored until the media caught on. Shapiro himself went after the story and shared his reporting with us.

"You walk down the street with a beard and kippah," Yaguda Kellerman, deputy chief of the Donetsk Jewish Community Center, said to Shapiro. "And you never experience any problems here. I was born in Donetsk."

Donetsk chief rabbi Pinchas Vishedski acknowledged the flier's existence, but called it a provocation, Shapiro reported.

Both sides — pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian — have accused each other of anti-Semitism during this conflict.

An April 15 United Nations report noted that the Association of Jewish Organisations and Communities of Ukraine has said incidents are isolated and that Jewish people, generally speaking, don't feel threatened by Ukrainian leaders.

The pro-Russia rebels have since put out their own flier attacking the original anti-Semitism accusations, Shapiro reported.

Kerry said Ukrainian Jews are being asked to register. There was a flier, but it doesn't seem to have been issued by any authority. We rate Kerry's claim False.
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 Post subject: Re: Jews ordered to be registered in Eastern Ukraine.
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Russians should know better, they, more than anyone, suffered and died under Hitler's attacks.


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 Post subject: Re: Jews ordered to be registered in Eastern Ukraine.
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In battles perhaps, but not via some final solution ethnic cleansing death camps.
The russians were always very antisemitic themselves, even after the war. And stalin wasn't much better than hitler. He and his regime probably killed just as many if not more russians and jews than the nazis.

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 Post subject: Re: Jews ordered to be registered in Eastern Ukraine.
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betamaxman wrote:
In battles perhaps, but not via some final solution ethnic cleansing death camps.
The russians were always very antisemitic themselves, even after the war. And stalin wasn't much better than hitler. He and his regime probably killed just as many if not more russians and jews than the nazis.


There is some historical double and probably triple accounting going on in that regard. Vast majority of jews killed in second world war were Poles and Russians. Almost all of the Russian jews killed were in the area for which it was clear Germans will occupy. They could have been evacuated but instead, Russians did "reverse evacuation"(TM), shipping even more jews from the rest of the country into those areas. Those people are now being counted as "jews killed by Hitler", "Russians killed by Hitler" and "jews killed by Stalin". It would be great to learn more, but I do not think there is any significant new research happening in that area as questioning numbers and/or events from that period is politically incorrect.


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