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 Post subject: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
PostPosted: March 18th, 2014, 10:36 pm 
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I simply can't believe that anyone would think this is the right way to treat Canadian veterans. Once again Harper shows his true colours and abuses the people that gave their lives, limbs, hearts and souls for this country. Despicable!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veteran ... -1.2577053

Sure use them for photo ops, claim that the "Harper Govt" is the only group that supports them, pull out your "hard power" talking points and then turn your back on them when they need help. I'm sure they will all waltz away from office and take their cushy gold plated pension plans right to their offshore accounts.

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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
PostPosted: March 18th, 2014, 11:00 pm 
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Actually the people in the forces take and oath to protect the queen,not the Gov. or Canada.
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http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/qro-orf/vol-01/chapter-chapitre-006-eng.asp
So i don't know if they will win this case i hope they do.

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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
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saherbal wrote:
Actually the people in the forces take and oath to protect the queen,not the Gov. or Canada.

Same thing. If you understood Canada's system of government, you'd know that.


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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
PostPosted: March 19th, 2014, 3:50 pm 
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kreskin wrote:
saherbal wrote:
Actually the people in the forces take and oath to protect the queen,not the Gov. or Canada.

Same thing. If you understood Canada's system of government, you'd know that.

How is it the same thing? I see NO mention of Canada or our GOV. just the queen and her heirs. I do know our system of Gov very well.
It's not the same thing, that is your assumption.

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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
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Just because you choose to be willfully stupid doesn't change our system of government.
Perhaps you should stay out of matters that involve our soldiers and our system of government. Whatever delusions you have and your choice not to seek medical help prevent you from making intelligent decisions on these matters.


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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
PostPosted: March 19th, 2014, 7:22 pm 
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Social covenant dates to WW I, vets say

One of the suit's main arguments is the existence of a "social contract" between the government and Canadian Forces veterans.

Was the contract changed in 2005? What was the change? Only thing it has with Gov. is the CONTRACT.

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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
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saherbal wrote:
kreskin wrote:
saherbal wrote:
Actually the people in the forces take and oath to protect the queen,not the Gov. or Canada.

Same thing. If you understood Canada's system of government, you'd know that.

How is it the same thing? I see NO mention of Canada or our GOV. just the queen and her heirs. I do know our system of Gov very well.
It's not the same thing, that is your assumption.

Not assumption, just a little thing called education.


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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
PostPosted: March 19th, 2014, 9:00 pm 
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mj wrote:
I simply can't believe that anyone would think this is the right way to treat Canadian veterans. Once again Harper shows his true colours and abuses the people that gave their lives, limbs, hearts and souls for this country. Despicable!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veteran ... -1.2577053

Sure use them for photo ops, claim that the "Harper Govt" is the only group that supports them, pull out your "hard power" talking points and then turn your back on them when they need help. I'm sure they will all waltz away from office and take their cushy gold plated pension plans right to their offshore accounts.

I don't really understand all the backlash against Harper over this. It was the Liberal government that enacted the new Veterans charter that saw them go from pensions to lump sum awards.


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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
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craiger wrote:
I don't really understand all the backlash against Harper over this. It was the Liberal government that enacted the new Veterans charter that saw them go from pensions to lump sum awards.


It is the Harper government spending hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars fighting this issue in court.
The Liberals are long gone. Harper owns this issue and that is why he is getting the backlash.
He has no honor and he campaigned on "supporting the troops" while basically calling the Liberals unpatriotic.
He is a sleazy hypocrite who rode the election on the backs of veterans and active duty soldiers and he has done nothing but make cuts to their services and forget all about them when they return home. That is why he is getting backlash.


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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
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Raiders wrote:
Just because you choose to be willfully stupid doesn't change our system of government.
Perhaps you should stay out of matters that involve our soldiers and our system of government. Whatever delusions you have and your choice not to seek medical help prevent you from making intelligent decisions on these matters.

I think these comments apply to most of you in this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: No social contract with Canadian Soldiers?
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If people knew what veterans are going through they would understand that this issue is not about the amount of money but how it is paid.

Giving a large amount of money to someone who just had their lives devastated and may be in the depths of depression and PTSD is a sure way to have them self-destruct through drugs, alcohol and risky behaviour.

Cap the total amount paid through pensions if need be, but the lump sum payment is the worst idea

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