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 Post subject: Charlottetown considering second pedestrian mall
PostPosted: July 13th, 2010, 6:01 pm 
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Charlottetown Council is considering the idea of creating a second pedestrian mall in downtown Charlottetown. Two locations being talked about are a portion of Kent Street or University Avenue.

Where do you think would be a good location for a second pedestrian mall? Do we even need another?

Personally I think a second pedestrian mall would be awesome. I would go as far as to close Queen Street from Grafton to Water.

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 Post subject: Re: Charlottetown considering second pedestrian mall
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Seriously i have NO idea what a pedestrian mall is.....is that the kind you walk through as apposed to driving through ?

How is this good?


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 Post subject: Re: Charlottetown considering second pedestrian mall
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Seriously i have NO idea what a pedestrian mall is.....is that the kind you walk through as apposed to driving through ?

How is this good?



Where they close off a street to car traffic like Victoria Row (part of Richmond Street)


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shelley wrote:
Seriously i have NO idea what a pedestrian mall is.....is that the kind you walk through as apposed to driving through ?

How is this good?



Where they close off a street to car traffic like Victoria Row (part of Richmond Street)



ok cool.....so a non drive through road with shops on it.........lol cool


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 Post subject: Re: Charlottetown considering second pedestrian mall
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Charlottetown Council is considering the idea of creating a second pedestrian mall in downtown Charlottetown. Two locations being talked about are a portion of Kent Street or University Avenue.

Where do you think would be a good location for a second pedestrian mall? Do we even need another?

Personally I think a second pedestrian mall would be awesome. I would go as far as to close Queen Street from Grafton to Water.


While I do not oppose pedestrian malls, I think closing Queen that distance would be a bit much. We must remember that not everyone is as young and able bodied as you. Many people with mobility difficulties could not walk from the nearest parking spots or parkades to the businesses on that strip.

Just my opinion.


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1 block sure, but that far? it would hurt business. people will drive 20 times around a block for a parking spot in front of the place they want to go, i doubt they'd walk 3 blocks.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlottetown considering second pedestrian mall
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We absolutely should have a second pedestrian mall.
My vote would be to close off Kent St. between Queen and University.


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We absolutely should have a second pedestrian mall.
My vote would be to close off Kent St. between Queen and University.

only problem i see with that i fire truck routeing heading east.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlottetown considering second pedestrian mall
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timeforchange wrote:
We absolutely should have a second pedestrian mall.
My vote would be to close off Kent St. between Queen and University.


I would think University being closed off between Kent and Grafton would be the better choice.

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I think logistically it's better to close off a one way street.


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too much traffic there.

grafton between university and queen... its already been closed due to the contruction, and add into the mix a 10 story hotel on the same block....


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There is really not a whole lot to chose from. It'll be interesting to see what block they choose.

Does anyone remember Victoria Row before it was closed off to traffic? Was it filled with business?

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I work on Victoria Row. The street is supposedly closed but, there are still cars going around the barriers and parking on the street. the city police drive by once in a while but I havn't seen anyone ticketed. There are children playing in the fountain because the street is closed but cars still drive down it. Today a motorcycle went by going the wrong way down a closed street!If the city wants to close another street for a pedestrian mall ,
they better figure out a way to police the one they already have!


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 Post subject: Re: Charlottetown considering second pedestrian mall
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To block Kent street anywhere near University - would be crazy!


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 Post subject: Re: Charlottetown considering second pedestrian mall
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How about this: make Water Street between Queen and Great George Street one way only heading North-East, and fill in the South-West-bound lane with patios? It's very close to the Delta Hotel, Peakes Quay, and Cruise Ship terminal. Between Linda's, Rum Runners and Sironella they should be able to terracify the street pretty easily. The on-street parking on the South side of the street would be unaffected.


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Aggie wrote:
To block Kent street anywhere near University - would be crazy!



Why?


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sheer volume of traffic on the street for one reason...

fire truck uses kent street as its main route from station 1 for a second reason..


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 Post subject: Re: Charlottetown considering second pedestrian mall
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It seems to work in most other cities. I see no reason it wouldn't work here.
Not a big difference taking Grafton instead of Kent.
Just get rid of the no left turn rule at that intersection.


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I work on Victoria Row. The street is supposedly closed but, there are still cars going around the barriers and parking on the street. the city police drive by once in a while but I havn't seen anyone ticketed. There are children playing in the fountain because the street is closed but cars still drive down it. Today a motorcycle went by going the wrong way down a closed street!If the city wants to close another street for a pedestrian mall ,
they better figure out a way to police the one they already have!


Didn't they have large black post barriers last year at the entrance off Queen St?


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I don't think Victoria row can, or ever, will get blocked off completely. The confederation center has loading doors there, and emergency vehicles need to be able to get down street, as well as the horse drawn carriage.

It's too bad the google streetview car didn't get invited to go down. Sad that unique part of PEI can't be explored.


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